[Oer-community] Global Open Access Map - - resource for location coordinates

Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wayne at gmail.com
Wed Nov 21 21:57:25 MST 2012


Thanks Abel,

That's sorted -- I suggest we use the OpenStreetMap data. It will save
considerable time and effort rather than trying to negotiate an open
license for data which should be in the public domain from the UN.

Wyane

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Caine, Abel <a.caine at unesco.org> wrote:

>  Thanks Davide.
>
>  To the OER Community, note that the completely FOSS-based OpenStreetMap
> has the equivalent list of lat/long coordinates as the list from the UN.
>
> Regards,
> Abel
>
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 22 nov. 2012, at 00:07, "Storti, Davide" <d.storti at unesco.org> wrote:
>
>   Dear Abel,
>
>  1. The list exists and ... It's OSM itself which is also openly
> licensed. As a database, you can query it for all these coordinates and
> even for metadata information or relations.
> Check for example taginfo:
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3Acountry
>
>  2. There is no copyright on geographical coordinates, although this is
> not clear to everyone:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Obtaining_geographic_coordinates
>
>  I think this should answer the concerns raised.
> Davide
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno 21 nov. 2012, alle ore 09:40, "Caine, Abel" <a.caine at unesco.org>
> ha scritto:
>
>    Davide,****
>
> ** **
>
> Does the OSM Community maintain an openly-licensed table/wiki of the
> lat-longs of major points in the world just like the copyrighted UN list
> below?****
>
> http://www.unece.org/cefact/locode/service/location.html****
>
> ** **
>
> Could you forward this question to your FOSS/OSM Communities, askign them
> to copy me with replies?****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
> Abel ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* oer-community-bounces at athabascau.ca [
> mailto:oer-community-bounces at athabascau.ca<oer-community-bounces at athabascau.ca>]
> *On Behalf Of *Wayne Mackintosh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 November 2012 09:27
> *To:* oer-community
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Oer-community] Global Open Access Map - - resource for
> location coordinates****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Virginia,****
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Virginia Cram-Martos <
> Virginia.Cram-Martos at unece.org> wrote:****
>
> The website where you can find the codes (and their coordinates) organised
> by country and alphabetically within the country is:
> http://www.unece.org/cefact/locode/service/location.html - so no need for
> most of you to figure out how to get your GPS to give you the coordinates
> of where you are - you can just go to the web. ****
>
> That's an amazing resource and I hope that the OER community can aquire
> permissions to use the data. ****
>
> ** **
>
> While in many jurisdictions, it is not possible to assert copyright on
> data, the UN site to which you refer has a very clear all rights reserved
> copyright notice.****
>
> ** **
>
> Quoting <http://www.unece.org/legal_notice/copyrightnotice.html> from the
> site:****
>
> ** **
>
>  "Copyright (c) United Nations 2000-2008. All rights reserved. None of
> the materials provided on this web site may be used, reproduced or
> transmitted, in whole or in part, in any form or by any means, electronic
> or mechanical, including photocopying, recording or the use of any
> information storage and retrieval system, except as provided for in the
> Terms and Conditions of Use of United Nations Web Sites, without permission
> in writing from the publisher."****
>
>  ** **
>
> How can we legally use the resources on this site for open education
> purposes? Would the UN consider changing the copyright license on this web
> site? Who do we need to contact requesting permission to change the license
> so we can use these resource for the benefit of OER?****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers****
>
> Wayne****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> -- ****
>
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