[Oer-community] Global Open Access Map - - resource for location coordinates
rory
rory at athabascau.ca
Wed Nov 21 08:43:38 MST 2012
Virginia,
The CC No Derivatives licence and the Non-Commercial covers the first
two and in case of warfare does anyone believe that the combatants are
going to respect copyright of any description?
Moreover, the CC-BY, the most open licence, is also enough for
protection against changing the data as most if not all countries have
laws against fraud or misrepresentation.
All the best.
Rory
On 12-11-21 1:47 AM, Virginia Cram-Martos wrote:
>
> Dear Wayne,
>
> I have had a number of discussions on this with UN legal and it is my
> understanding that their logic is that they want the UN to maintain
> the copyright in order to ensure that: i) no one changes the data (for
> example someone changing a country name and then distributing the list
> as the "official" codelist); ii) no one sells it (all UN outputs paid
> for by the regular budget are free of charge); and iii) no one uses it
> for activities the the UN would not want to be associated with(for
> example, in the cases of coordinates, warfare).
>
> If you have any suggestions for alternate formulations that would
> address all of these concerns, I would be happy to launch inquiries
> with our legal service about changing the IPR statement.
>
> The data is free for use and in practice, as I mentioned in my
> original message, is widely used by many governments and companies (it
> is also referenced in at least one international transport convention).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Virginia
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> Inactive hide details for Wayne Mackintosh ---21/11/2012 09:30:06---Hi
> Virginia, On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Virginia CramWayne
> Mackintosh ---21/11/2012 09:30:06---Hi Virginia, On Wed, Nov 21, 2012
> at 9:10 PM, Virginia Cram-Martos <
>
> From: Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wayne at gmail.com>
> To: oer-community <oer-community at athabascau.ca>
> Date: 21/11/2012 09:30
> Subject: Re: [Oer-community] Global Open Access Map - - resource for
> location coordinates
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>
> Hi Virginia,
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Virginia
> Cram-Martos <_Virginia.Cram-Martos at unece.org_
> <mailto:Virginia.Cram-Martos at unece.org>> wrote:
>
> The website where you can find the codes (and their coordinates)
> organised by country and alphabetically within the country is:
> _http://www.unece.org/cefact/locode/service/location.html_ - so no
> need for most of you to figure out how to get your GPS to give you
> the coordinates of where you are - you can just go to the web.
>
>
> That's an amazing resource and I hope that the OER community can
> aquire permissions to use the data.
>
> While in many jurisdictions, it is not possible to assert copyright on
> data, the UN site to which you refer has a very clear all rights
> reserved copyright notice.
>
> _Quoting_ <http://www.unece.org/legal_notice/copyrightnotice.html>from
> the site:
>
> "Copyright (c) United Nations 2000-2008. All rights reserved. None
> of the materials provided on this web site may be used, reproduced
> or transmitted, in whole or in part, in any form or by any means,
> electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording or the
> use of any information storage and retrieval system, except as
> provided for in the Terms and Conditions of Use of United Nations
> Web Sites, without permission in writing from the publisher."
>
>
> How can we legally use the resources on this site for open education
> purposes? Would the UN consider changing the copyright license on this
> web site? Who do we need to contact requesting permission to change
> the license so we can use these resource for the benefit of OER?
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
>
>
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