[Oer-community] NC License and Printing cost

[Nadia ElBorai]

Zaid you make a very good point about the printing cost. 
I recently heard a story about a teacher insisting that students should buy the original printed booklet to his students. They were not allowed to photocopy it themselves and they had to buy the original from him.
One of the parents called the publisher and bought the original for one tenth of the price.
Someone else brought this subject up at Wikimania in Alexandria in 2008.

I think if there is a choice, either the person can print it themselves or agree to get it printed for them without profit then the Open and Free part will not be violated.
Just a thought.
Nadia

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On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Zaid Ali Alsagoff <zaid.alsagoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> Thanks everyone (sharing their points) for the awesome discussion regarding Creative Commons and especially the NC license aspect. However, I am not sure I can associate popcorn with OER in the cinema, unless the popcorn is free. Since it is mostly over-priced (including in Malaysia) to say Popcorn is OER or OER are popcorn doesn't ring a bell in me (Sounds cool only). Though, David's blog post made totally sense to me (Who cares!), except the popcorn aspect (though the separation aspect between cinema and popcorn makes sense). I suppose, it will make sense, when I get free popcorn at the cinema (I wish) :)
> 
> However, my question to the experts on NC is this: Should for example the University print-out several copies of a CC BY-NC-SA module (used for a course), and then charge the student for the printing cost just to cover the cost without making money...is that allowed or are we violating the NC license aspect. Such instances might occur to save the students from needing to individually print them out themselves (convenience), and it might also save cost as it is done in bulks. 
> 
> Obviously, if we make money selling the printed OER it is wrong, but what about doing it just to cover the cost (without making profit) is it allowed based on the NC license?
> 
> My current understanding (Still confused on this aspect) is that you can't do it, but my rationale say it should be allowed to do it to cover cost (only).
> 
> If this question has been discussed already, I apologize for missing that particular thread. Trying hard just to keep up with all the great discussions going on this time around.
> 
> Thanks and warm regards,
> 
> Zaid Ali Alsagoff
> E-Learning Manager
> International Medical University   
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> 
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> 
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Stephen Downes <Stephen.Downes at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:
>  > Fewer restrictions = more degrees of freedom for downstream users and
> uses.
> 
> It's like they never stop saying this, even though it's not true.
> 
> -- Stephen
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