[Oer-community] NC License and Printing cost

Browne, Delia Delia.Browne at det.nsw.edu.au
Wed Nov 28 18:02:20 MST 2012


I would argue that is cost recovery not a commercial use and therefore not breaching the CC BY NC

Delia

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On 29/11/2012, at 11:59 AM, "Zaid Ali Alsagoff" <zaid.alsagoff at gmail.com<mailto:zaid.alsagoff at gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All,

Thanks everyone (sharing their points) for the awesome discussion regarding Creative Commons and especially the NC license aspect. However, I am not sure I can associate popcorn with OER in the cinema, unless the popcorn is free. Since it is mostly over-priced (including in Malaysia) to say Popcorn is OER or OER are popcorn doesn't ring a bell in me (Sounds cool only). Though, David's blog post made totally sense to me (Who cares!), except the popcorn aspect (though the separation aspect between cinema and popcorn makes sense). I suppose, it will make sense, when I get free popcorn at the cinema (I wish) :)

However, my question to the experts on NC is this: Should for example the University print-out several copies of a CC BY-NC-SA module (used for a course), and then charge the student for the printing cost just to cover the cost without making money...is that allowed or are we violating the NC license aspect. Such instances might occur to save the students from needing to individually print them out themselves (convenience), and it might also save cost as it is done in bulks.

Obviously, if we make money selling the printed OER it is wrong, but what about doing it just to cover the cost (without making profit) is it allowed based on the NC license?

My current understanding (Still confused on this aspect) is that you can't do it, but my rationale say it should be allowed to do it to cover cost (only).

If this question has been discussed already, I apologize for missing that particular thread. Trying hard just to keep up with all the great discussions going on this time around.

Thanks and warm regards,

Zaid Ali Alsagoff
E-Learning Manager
International Medical University
No. 126, Jln Jalil Perkasa 19, Bukit Jalil,57000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Blog: http://zaidlearn.blogspot.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/zaidlearn




On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Stephen Downes <Stephen.Downes at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca<mailto:Stephen.Downes at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>> wrote:
 > Fewer restrictions = more degrees of freedom for downstream users and
uses.

It's like they never stop saying this, even though it's not true.

-- Stephen

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